Other Sheep in
CHINA 2010
  • CHINA 2010:  Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Hainan, Beijing
  • INDIA 2010:  Bangalore, Trivandrum, Alleppey, Cochin
At left:  
Nigel Collett,
Fridae.com
reporter
Hong Kong LGBT Seminar: 8 problems at the core of
the 'ex-gay' movement
Nigel Collett reporting on Steve and Jose's seminar
HONG KONG. Thursday, July 22, 2010, 1:50pm, from the
Internet at Pacific Coffee, Nathan Road, Kowloon, Hong Kong.
Submitted by Rev. Steve Parelli.

The following is an excerpt from the article Is there such a thing
as an ex-gay? by Nigel Collett, Fridae.com's Hong Kong
correspondent. Nigel Collett, who attended the seminar by the
same name, which Rev. Steve Parelli and Jose Ortiz presented
here in Hong Kong, gives a summary of the fallacies of the 'ex-
gay' movement as Steve and Jose explained them.  

The seminar was hosted by the
Blessed Minority Christian
Fellowship of Hong Kong on Saturday afternoon, July 17, 2010.  
You can read Nigel Collett's complete article by clicking here.  

The full paper Steve and Jose presented can be linked to from
their Other Sheep website by
going to this web page. The paper
is in English and Chinese.

8 problems at the core of the 'ex-gay'
movement
(excerpt from Nigel Collett's article)

They [Rev. Steve Parelli and Jose Ortiz] see eight problems at the
core of the ‘ex-gay’ movement.

Number one: it is a movement rooted in traditional cultural norms
and not in good religious interpretation (biblical exegesis) or
modern science. It arose in 1975 as a reaction to the growth of
gay and other liberation in the USA in the late sixties and early
seventies and has its origins in the evangelical culture of religion,
country and flag. The tying of religion – and religion of an
evangelical hue – to patriotism makes for a particularly heady
brew and accounts for a lot of the vitriol of the opposition to gay
liberation. This leads the movement to try to justify its tenets in
mis-interpreted religious ‘clobber texts’, which are used out of
context to beat the believer.

Number two: the movement’s use of psychology is out of date
and highly selective. Its science is spurious and discredited in the
mainstream, and its practitioners are held in little respect in their
profession. Ideas of smothering mothers, distant fathers and
childhood abuse litter their literature.

Number three: whilst the movement promises ‘change’, it can
only deliver behavioural modification, something its leaders admit
(though usually only in the small print). It is inevitable that it will
disappoint ‘those who want to arrive at a destination but find
themselves alone on the train not knowing where they are going’,
as Steve puts it.

Number four: the movement attempts to alter behaviour into
stereotypical male and female gender roles, ignoring the reality of
diversity and the cultural base for these stereotypes. By behaving
like a man, by playing ball, by dressing conservatively, by
avoiding anything effeminate, it says, you will be ‘healed’; an idea,
of course, which would be ludicrous if it were not so sad, but an
attractive one to those who have been damaged by the ostracism
that their differences have attracted all their lives.

Number five: the movement is riven by dishonesty. Personal
failings have to be glossed over in order to conform to a God-
ordained success, so the inevitable failures are brushed under
the carpet. The enthusiasm of new adherents is touted as
success while the failure of older members is ignored; the
movement’s poster boy or girl is always the new face.

Number six: the claims of success used in the movement’s
propaganda are not substantiated. No statistics are kept and wild
statements are made. There is never any attempt to follow up on
people who exit the movement.

Number seven: the movement is tied to certain types of religious
experience and sees being ‘ex-gay’ as a walk with a personal
Jesus who will be with you in ‘an unending process of overcoming’
in the service of God. Not much help, here, for the skeptic, the
Buddhist, the Hindu, the agnostic or atheist or even the middle of
the road Anglican.

Number eight: the movement views non-sexual close male
relationships as essential for ‘healing’, a claim as unsubstantiated
and dubiously based as it is positively inimical to resisting
temptation (as Steve and Jose so luckily found!).

Why, then, does this movement persist? Steve and José believe
that it will not do so in the long term, as it is based upon a
negativity which will destroy it, but in the mean time it survives
because of the sincere enthusiasm of many of those within it and
the never-ending succession of young men and women it attracts
as they come to adulthood and who wish to follow the religion in
which they have been brought up. Though many of the movement’
s leading practitioners seem to be unscrupulous, the mass of its
membership consists of deeply troubled men and women who are
seeking help or trying to give help to others. Those who undergo
the experience of ‘reparative therapy’ therefore often have
nothing but affection for those who mislead them through the
process. I found this phenomenon amongst the audience at the
talk and it is something noted by many researchers (see, for
instance, Tanya Erzen’s 2006 account, Straight to Jesus). That is
at least one reason why it is so difficult to find people prepared to
speak out.

Speak out they must, though, if the continuing psychological
damage endured by those seeking to be ‘ex-gay’ is to be
stopped. The Hong Kong medical establishment has yet to have
the courage to stand up for the truth and to make any statement
about ‘reparative therapy’ and its dangers. Eventually, they will
have to be pushed into doing so. Steve Parelli and José Ortiz
have left Hong Kong now, but they have planted a seed here
which the LGBT movement in Hong Kong should tend to full
growth.
Above: Jose Ortiz (left) and Steve
Parelli (center left) with Nigel Collett
(right) and his boyfriend (center right).
 

Right:  Nigel Collet (left) with
boyfriend

Place & Date:  The Foreign
Correspondents' Club, Hong Kong
July 21, 2010
Jose Ortiz
Steve Parelli        Jose Ortiz
Rev. Steve Parelli
Steve Parelli     Jose Ortiz
Steve Parelli                                Jose Ortiz
Above:  Jose Ortiz, left,
with
Paul Lucas, a leader
in ministry at Blessed
Minority Christian
Fellowship, Hong Kong.
July 9, 2010
At right:
黃牧, the pastor of
Blessed Minority
Christian Fellowship,
Hong Kong, with his
wife.
Jose Ortiz        Paul Lucas
黃牧, Pastor of BMCF with his wife
Seminar on

'ex-gay' fallacies, July
17, 2010, Blessed
Minority Christian
Fellowship, Hong
Kong.
Seminar on
'ex-gay' fallacies, July
17, 2010, Blessed
Minority Christian
Fellowship, Hong
Kong.
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Photo Below:
Seminar photos in the box
area at left were taken by
Fergus Lo (below) of
Blessed Minority Christian
Fellowship, Hong Kong
Fergus Lo
Hong Kong